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Author:  Dave-SKG [ Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:44 am ]
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Don,
Since you have by default, become our in-house Festool expert, I would like to ask you a couple questions:

Regarding the Orbital Sander(s):
1)was the model you tried and liked, the electric model or was it air powered?
2)Did you try the air powered version? If so what's your thoughts
3)Were you able to try their vacuum system and compare it to that wonderful Fein you own.
4)Do you know if the Festool sander will hook up to the FEIN or must you buy their vac.? I believe the Fein is quieter.

THANKS DON!

Author:  Don Williams [ Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:33 pm ]
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Hey Dave,

1. It was electric.
2. No. Didn't try it
3. The vacuum system was amazing. There was no dust whatsoever anywhere coming off of the thing. I mean none. I didn't compare the two systems, but the Fein is a tad quieter. The advantage of the Festool vac is that it also has a flat top and clips to hold the Festool cases in a nice stack.
4. It will work just fein with the Fein.
They both have power-activated outlets so that when you start the power tool the vac also starts up.

For more specific answers, ask Brad who seems to own them and can speak more intelligently about them (and most other things too I'm afraid) .

I think I'm getting close to buying their chordless drill. My old DeWalt 14v has just about had it. The batteries won't hold a charge for very long any more.
The Festool is without a doubt the nicest chordless drill I've ever seen. I swear it's NASA quality!
Don Williams38822.9446412037

Author:  Dave-SKG [ Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:42 pm ]
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Thanks Don!

Author:  Brad Goodman [ Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:37 am ]
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Hi Dave ,
I have 5 festool tools(electric) and I have the fein vacuum and it works great.
Definately the best dust collection I have ever used
You will need to use the Festool hose and order the corect adaptor for the Fein vacuum.

Author:  L. Presnall [ Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:47 am ]
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Will the Festool hook up to a regular vac, like a small Shop Vac?

Author:  klhoush [ Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:28 am ]
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Don, you're killing me!

Chordless drill??!! I hope you won't build a chordless guitar with that!

The higher voltage cordless tools can be charged fewer times before battery failure. I got the 3.2 amp hour Panasonic 15.4v and it kicks 18v butt. My favorite cordless tool right now is the Makita 14v hammer screwdriver. It is well balanced and lighter than the DeWalt or the Panasonic.
Kurt Housh

Author:  mikev [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:09 am ]
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I use the fein hose with an adapter right at the sander, And I agree with all the other comments on the sander. i have the 5" rotex.. dust, what dust ?????
Mike

Author:  Dave-SKG [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:01 am ]
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It's a big investment and they have several models. Are you glad you purchased the Rotex or is it somehow not as "good" as they standard orbital only models? Has anyone used the air powered version?

Author:  Brad Goodman [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:07 am ]
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Dave,
I have the 6" Rotex and the 5" random orbit and I like having them both for different operations.
The smaller one is probably more useful to a flattop maker,The bigger ,more aggresive sander better for archtop building.

Author:  mikev [ Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:20 am ]
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I bought the 5" rotex with archtops in mind, my thinking was the smaller pad would fit into smaller areas easier. Now that may not be the right thinking, but it was all I had at the time . I also bought the softer pad to follow contours easier. The Rotex mode is not as agressive as I thought it was going to be, but it does leave marks. The ROS is smooth.
Everything I hear about air ROS is great except the large amount of air needed. 17cfm at 90 psi for full speed. My compressor would never keep up with that, plus I don't want to hear the compressor run all the time either.

Author:  Scott Thompson [ Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:51 am ]
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[QUOTE=mikev]The Rotex mode is not as agressive as I thought it was going to be...[/QUOTE]

Well, I found the oppite to be true. It took me by surprise. At full speed arressive mode, it can be difficult tell if your sanding level. On my first pratice try with RO125 with 80 grit,I put too much pressure on the handle and tilted the sander a bit on edge. I sanded through a .115 piece of EIR before I realized what had happened.

Author:  mikev [ Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:05 pm ]
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scott, that is totally not what I found, maybe I don't press down enough. I have used 50 grit on spruce and found it very controlable. I would have to work at it to sand through .115 eir.

Author:  Scott Thompson [ Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:38 pm ]
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Mike. No downward pressure really, I was just putting enough pressure to inadvertently tilt it back slightly.



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